so typical of an alcoholic, back and forth, up and down, never making anything clear, saying do this, then no, do that, then this is right, no its' wrong. That drove me crazy in the F., trying to follow berg everytime he got a new revelation and changed his mind. After awhile I didn't know whether I was coming or going.

I can't believe after all those quotes you are still defending berg. He actually had incest with his daughters and his grandaughter and fantasized about having sex with his mother. Then he implied it was ok - go for it if you have the faith for it - why not, he already was. Whether you want to call that a doctrine or not, doesn't matter to me, the facts are appalling enough. THe fact that YOU aren't appalled is appalling to me.

> Well I guess the bible promotes incest also!
> Genesis 19:30-36 Thats what Mo was referring
> to in the old testiment. So was Lot a
> pedophile???

> Seems like nothing was said about marrying
> within the family structure till the Mosiac
> law. So Mo was answering a question put to
> him by someone and doesnt sound like hes
> making a doctrine out of it so.....Next
> question!

> That was my point he never made a doctrine
> out of child/adult sexual relationships.
> things may have been suggested like in the
> Davidito book and even in that answer he may
> have implyed but gave no definite yes its
> perfectly ok. but no actual hard and fast
> doctrine was made about it!

> Just like when the letter Homo's came out
> and he was saying maybe in the course of
> real love somethings may be permissable. But
> later recanted and said homosexual
> relationships or sodomy was prohibited
> within the family.

> The same about lesbians at first he hinted
> it might be ok but later changed his stance
> on it. Sounds to me more like some theories
> he had but did not teach as fact or sound
> doctrine.

> None of these things became
> "doctrine" that I know of while I
> was in the family. What doctrines came out
> concerning this specific issue(adult/child
> sex) after I was gone I have no knowledge of
> since I have not been in contact with the
> family since 1989.

> But the family has on several occasions said
> that that kind of interaction was definitely
> prohibited and those who indulged in it
> would be expelled from the family!

> Some choose to believe the family as a whole
> still practices that. Im more inclined to
> think if that goes on at all it is done in
> secret with out the knowledge of others even
> as with other sins. But the bible says
> "be sure your sins will find you
> out"!!!

> I have faith in an all seeing all knowing
> all encompassing God. Nothing escapes his
> omnipresence. And my God is not a slackard
> he will deal with sin in his time and
> season. We will all get a recompense for our
> works either good works or evil
> works.....The bible says so.... Revelations
> 22:11,12

> Here's