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Re: Dairies and kidney stones
By:porceleindoll
Date: Monday, 17 June 2002, 12:56 am
In Response To: Re: Dairies and kidney stones (Ironsides)

Well, I never heard of Peter Singer, but from what you say, I tend to disagree with his beliefs.

Anyway, it is interesting what you said about Vit. C. While I was researching the subject, I found that the USRDA standard set is only the minimum amount of Vit. C you need to not get scurvy. But Vit. C is an important part of our immune system, and is a key part of the anti-aging process, antioxidant. So, though you may be able to get by on such a small amount, your body really benefits from a larger amount, I can't remember how much off the top of my head though.

Also, I believe humans are the only mammals that don't produce vit. C in their system, which is why we need to keep replenishing our body's source of it. Don't quote me on it, I wasn't really researching Vit. C in depth at the time, I was looking for the kidney and Vit. C connection.

I think that if you just do everything in balance and avoid chemical and toxic, refined foods as much as possible, you should stay healthy. I don't advocate overdoing on any one thing, but the fact is that most Americans at least are malnourished, they eat a lot of premade, refined, preserved, canned, tinned, microwavable, fast food, which doesn't deliver to the body the balance of vitamins, minerals and enzymes your body requires to digest, process and repair itself. I don't think you can err on having too much vit C or other things cause at the present most people are more in the deficiency side of things.

The thing is, if you are eating enough vegetables and fruits which are raw, getting enough protein and drinking enough water, if you do intake too many vitamins, your body will most likely flush them out of your system. The only thing I have heard about being fatal is too much iron for children, a cause of many deaths. I would be interested to know more about build up of vitamins in your body and the negative side-effects to them, you have my curiosity peaked, if you have any links or recommended books, let me know.

Ironsides, I wondered if you might be interested in checking out this link and let me know what you think, here or in private is fine.

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index.htm

Right now I am going through the tour and reading the controversy section, it is stirring up my curiosity to study more in depth.

But anyway, about the excess vit C. being hard on the kidneys and pancreas, since these, esp. the kidneys, have to do with your body's disposal system, I wonder if part of the problem would be a lack of water to flush out the unneeded vit C? I did try to find evidence on the net about Vit. C affecting the kidneys negatively, but couldn't find anything to support it, so if you have some more information on it, I would be interested.

> I'm more inclined to insist that Gorillas
> are not the rule of measurements for what
> humans should consume.

> Contrary to the academic fools, I'm no close
> relation to monkeys or any other species.
> Peter Singer, the Animal Rights king
> disagrees. He teaches the world that animals
> deserve more equal rights and protection
> than Disabled People, and that disabled
> babies should be killed up to a month old,
> so their organs can be used for children
> more deserving.

> God made "human beings" to have
> dominion over every other species, and only
> Charles poop-fossil Darwin and his religious
> cult of Animal Rights followers, insist that
> we need to learn from the animals how to eat
> and live.

> One grapefruit is equivalent to
> approximately 43 mg. of Vitamin C, which is
> sufficient in a balanced diet.

> Any excessive amounts of vitiamins over a
> period of time, result in adverse effects,
> like ny other drugs.

> Vitamins or other forms of medications have
> therapeutic effects under certain
> conditions, under which deficiencies
> occurred. But, when the immune system and
> point of injury is healed, the best thing to
> do is maintain a balanced diet.

> The healthfood system, as with the
> pharmaceutical world are pretty dependent on
> persuading the population to be longter, and
> lifetime customers.

> Some people do require supplements fulltime,
> due to whatever conditions they have, but
> it's important to know when you need
> something, and when you don't.

> As long as my diet is stable, I'm in better
> shape than the average, and I have a 12 hour
> work-my-ass-off schedule.

> Excess Vitamin C is hard on the kidneys and
> pancreas.

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