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presence or coming
By:ebw
Date: Saturday, 28 January 2006, 12:06 pm
In Response To: "sign of thy COMING/PAROUSIA" (Daniel)

> And there are
> many, many scriptures that the Bible projects
> as talking about the "coming" of the
> Lord that are not talking at all about a
> physical descent of Jesus from the sky. They
> speak rather of His coming in us, His
> appearing through us, the glory of the
> fullness of the presence of the Lord in the
> midst of the church, the presence of the
> Lord in the earth.

I can't buy that.

Even if we substitute the word "presence" for "coming", (assuming that we somehow a better grasp of the nuance of the word than did the KJV translators), that doesn't change the fact that in His response, Jesus clearly described it as a "coming in the clouds of heaven" and He tied it to the end of time (not the end of an indistinguishable age, but all the nations of the earth mourning as they see Jesus COMING in the clouds with power and great glory).

So no matter what the disciples may have asked, the response that Jesus gave was undeniably a physical "coming" and not an internal presence.

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