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Branches never stand for a nation?
By:Darkangel
Date: Saturday, 28 January 2006, 10:55 pm
In Response To: Let's not twist the words Lydia (ebw)

> The word "they" in that verse
> does not at all refer to the nation
> "Israel" as you seem to imply, but
> to "some of the (natural)
> branches". In other words individual
> people.
"The branches were broken off"
Don't the branches here stand for the nation of the jews in Jesus's day?
"Boast not against the branches"
Same thing here Branches means Nation of the jews too
so How do you come to the conclusion that Branches never stand for a nation????

> Even now, any individual who no longer
> abides in unbelief, in other words who
> believes, can easily be grafted in.

> It has nothing whatsoever to do with any
> "future" restoration of the nation
> to God's kingdom.

> It is for now, and it only happens at the
> personal individual level.

> The cut off branches can be grafted back in
> whenever they want to, all they have to do
> is believe.

> No "nation" ever got saved.
> Only people can get saved.

> Ro 11:17 And if some of the branches
>
be broken off, and thou, being a wild
> olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and
> with them (the natural branches) partakest
> of the root (God) and fatness of the olive
> tree (God's kingdom); 18 Boast not against
> the branches. But if thou boast,
> thou bearest not the root, but the root
> thee. 19 Thou wilt say then, The
> branches
were broken off, that I might
> be graffed in. 20 Well; because of unbelief
> they were broken off, and thou standest by
> faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For
> if God spared not the natural
> branches
, take heed lest he also spare
> not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness
> and severity of God: on them (branches)
> which fell, severity; but toward thee,
> goodness, if thou continue in his goodness:
> otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And
> they also (the fallen branches), if they
> abide not still in unbelief, shall be
> graffed in: for God is able to graff them in
> again.

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