> You're saying there's truth to the assertion
> that Pope Paul VI is locked away prisoner in
> the Vatican?

Definitely not.
I'm not saying anything at all about Joel and Carmel.

I'm just saying that in the Vatican the pope is not really in charge, there are dark forces that control both the vatican and the pope.
Formerly these were the Jesuits and the P2 lodge, but more recently they are the Catholic Alliance and Opus Dei. Same forces, different fronts.

> Joel and Carmel have proposed that, because
> "prophecies" about Berg are still
> unfulfilled, he MUST still be alive, held
> captive somewhere, possibly in a drugged
> state, by Peter and Maria.

> Their belief is that the "true" Family has
> been hijacked and is, spiritually, as good as
> dead. But one day soon, according to his
> reading of Ezk. 37, God will breathe new
> life into them; they will wake up and kick
> out current (pretender) Family leadership.

Not very likely to happen in my opinion.

> This is the same as sedevacantists believe
> about Pope Paul VI and the current
> leadership of the Catholic Church.

Never heard of 'em.

But since pope Paul VI was born in 1897 I kinda doubt if he's gonna make a comeback.

The present pope is a real shady character though.

I don't expect anything good to come out of the vatican anytime soon.