Personally I don't think that he is, but apparently Joel and his wife, and I don't know who else , still believe this nonsense.
whether he IS alive or not, doesn't have anything to so with the end time as far as Bible prophecy goes, and doesn't have anything to so with the Gospel, or Jesus.
He is just another fake, false pretender who will be forgotten, (if people would only let us forget) and go down in the annals of oblivion, with no contribution to society.
I Like Joel and think he is a great guy and have nothing against him as a person or human being. I admire his love of the Lord and the Word.
But it has become
unreasonable to try to respond to things like this post below, or comment on his comments about Berg being alive.
So in my exchange with Joel, I would say, I have said all I want to say about the subject and if you come up with
any real evidence to prove your theory (which is all it is right now) please let me know.
Evidence means facts, not clues or coded messages Thanks
Psalm 88 is about someone who is not actually dead: "LIKE
> the slain".-v5- -"FREE among the dead" [Free from
> Interpol-Ha!] This is "Jacob, the deceiver"; "Dad
> speaking" from heaven in Mama's lit. But the Hiding game
> [340.27] can only last so long. He will eventually Confess
> [Dan.9:2-4], and this is when "the Prince of Persia"
> and his band become enraged!-Dan.10:13 Both verses are in the
> text of Virginia Berg's 1966 prophecy in 115:4-5.[text below]
> She actually heard Mo praying the words of Dan.9!
> This is when the book of Daniel comes to life, and the Word is
> UNSEALED!-Dan.12:4 Then "the earth shall be filled with the
> knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the
> sea."-Hab.2:14 Daniel 10:13 reminds me of "African
> Nightmare"[201] where Mo is embracing a woman. "But
> the minute I tried to let go of her, she began to squeeze me to
> death like a boa-constrictor. It was like she'd become something
> demonic."-201:2,6 This Letter links "Grandmother's
> Warning Prophecy" in v13, just like 115:2! [text below]
> There will definitely be war "over the body of Moses"
> by Michael!-Jude 9
> This Hiding in "the grave" is concealing and delaying
> God's WONDERS of fulfilled prophecy.-Ps.88:10-12 The same scene
> is in Isa.38:18 where "Hezekiah" eventually TALKS:
> "the father to the children shall make known Thy
> truth."-v19- -Just like Elijah in Mal.4:6! Hezekiah's
> "near death experience" is linked in "The
> Watch"[186] about the last 24 Times.
> Here are some excerpts about HIDING:
> "MY LOVE IS A LEGEND"--MO July, 1971 NO.84--GP
> 1. I LOVE BEING A LEGEND--A MYSTERY! I always wanted to be a
> ghost when I was a little boy. I loved characters like Dracula
> and Frankenstein and Tarzan. And I would have added Space man to
> my list, but it was too early for him then! [Ghost!-Wow!]
> 8. But I did everything in secret--I didn't want anybody else to
> know what I was doing! I even developed a code for my diary, so
> nobody else would know what I was writing. [Coded Letters!]
> 10. I LOVED TO BE MYSTERIOUS! I loved being the power behind the
> scenes!
> "SAUL AND MICHAEL"--MO October 2, 1971 NO.115--LTA
> PROPHECY ABOUT DAVID AND DANIEL, KING SAUL AND THE ARCHANGEL
> MICHAEL THROUGH GRANDMOTHER
> 1. IN THE SUMMER OF 1966, about a year before we last parted
> from King Saul's employ and went to California to begin our
> present ministry--this Youth Revolution for Jesus, GRANDMOTHER
> VISITED OUR LITTLE FAMILY AT THE RANCH. We were having
> difficulties with Saul then, over his listening to the counsel
> of his Witch, instead of to us, regarding his TV show, and we
> could see the handwriting on the wall how that he was trying
> figure some way to dump us at the Witch's behest. We were
> considerably concerned, as we knew that it might mean the loss
> of our happy home for our little family at the Ranch, as well as
> the loss of our TV ministry of twelve years and our income, and
> we had no idea what we were going to do next.
> 2. WHILE PRAYING DESPERATELY ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION, and
> seeking God's Will and Plan for our lives as a family, and
> wondering what Saul was going to do, GRANDMOTHER RECEIVED THE
> FOLLOWING PROPHECY FOR US directly from the Lord. It came with
> great power and anointing, like the famous "Warning
> Prophecy"[also in 201:13] in the middle of the night--and
> like the "Warning Prophecy", she immediately arose and
> wrote it down, and read it to us the next day. IT HAS SUCH GREAT
> SIGNIFICANCE REGARDING OUR PRESENT SIMILAR PROBLEMS WITH KING
> SAUL, this time in relation to our much larger family of nearly
> two thousand, instead of the original Seven, that I want to pass
> it on to you now, as it applies to our present situation also.
> 3. AS YOU WILL NOTE, IT ALSO CONTAINS A REMARKABLE PROPHECY
> REGARDING "THE ONE CALLED DAVID by Divine anointing",
> as well as the surprising announcement that the great Archangel
> Michael himself was now our guardian angel! In fact, it was this
> mention of Michael in Grandmother's prophecy which reminded us
> of it again just now as we were about to give you a new and
> rather unusual revelation from the Lord which He gave to us just
> a couple of days ago through the Archangel Michael himself, and
> which we hope to tell you of in a few moments. But first let me
> read to you Grandmother's prophecy about Saul and Michael and
> David from the original copy written by her own dear hands:
> 4. "AS REGARDING THE MAN CALLED SAUL BY HUMAN TONGUE, PRAY
> FOR HIM, love him, search him out. He is in prison with many
> bars of iron, and they of the Band of the Prince of Persia are
> enraged at him! (See Daniel 10:13: Apparently powerful demon
> powers--devil kings--leaders in the Kingdom of Satan, who were
> given power against Saul because of his sins. Note also 1Samuel
> 16:14: But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an
> evil spirit from the Lord trouble him.) They strike at him, and
> he has no power to stand against them! Like a ram they have
> trampled down and stepped upon him, and there is none to rescue
> him from their power! Where is the one that will intercede for
> him? Behold, he prays: "I sinned and perverted that which
> is right, and it was not requited to me. he has redeemed my soul
> from going down into the Pit and my life has seen the
> Light." (See Job 33:27-29.)
> 5. (Now comes the first mention of Michael:) "THERE IS FOR
> ME AN ANGEL, A MEDIATOR, AND EVEN NOW HE WRESTLES FOR ME!
> (Apparently Michael, later mentioned by name, wrestles here for
> David, whose future ministry is about to be proclaimed, as the
> prophecy continues:)"TO THE ONE CALLED DAVID BY DIVINE
> ANOINTING, IT HAS BEEN GIVEN THEE TO PERCEIVE THE NUMBER OF
> YEARS, which according to the Prophet Jeremiah will pass before
> the End of Desolations. (See Daniel 9:2.) I have also given him
> the power now to perceive the meaning of these things!
> (Evidently the meaning of the prophecies of Jeremiah and Daniel,
> which He certainly did do in the days following, and which you
> are benefiting from in your studies of Jeremiah and Daniel to
> this very day!)
> 6. "THEREFORE SPEEDILY PRAY THE PRAYER OF DANIEL: (Daniel 9
> again: You must here read the entire prayer, verses 3-19 to
> appreciate its significance in relation to us and the ministry
> He was predicting for us, even in this prayer, even to the
> sackcloth and ashes and the reasons and need for it because of
> the conditions of the Church and the Nation so aptly described
> herein!)
> 7. GRANDMOTHER SAID THAT SHE HEREUPON ACTUALLY COULD HEAR THIS
> PRAYER being prayed, but that it seemed as though I, DAVID, WERE
> DANIEL, praying the prayer! In the prophecy I was being
> identified as Daniel, and as the prayer was being prayed, there
> was a beautiful Heavenly antiphonal choral response as of saints
> and angels singing, repeated several times throughout the
> prayer, as though for encouragement from Heaven, the same as in
> Daniel 10:19: "O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be
> unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong!" As you may know, the
> name David means "Beloved", and it was as though our
> prayers were being identified with Daniel's, as the prophecy
> continued:
> 8. "AT THE BEGINNING OF THY SUPPLICATION, WORD WENT FORTH
> THAT THOU ART GREATLY BELOVED" (this is the same as saying,
> "Though art GREATLY DAVID," with an unusual emphasis
> and significance, as though I were a special David), "but
> the Prince of Persia and his Band are wrestling with Michael
> against your supplications. Fear not, though great seems the
> delay, Michael shall overcome the Prince of that Kingdom, and he
> shall be defeated. The vision is not complete, but is for an
> accepted time.-[Decades after 1966!]
> And now, another view of the same spiritual battle in #203:
> 37. (Strong prayer in the Spirit and weeping:) "KISS THE
> SON LEST HE BE ANGRY with thee and thou perish from the
> way!" The Lord waits a long time, but then He's a little
> angry. This is a spiritual struggle, and it is the Devil himself
> that's holding him back! And it's almost as if when the bell
> tolls and the book begins to close--the priest is closing
> it--it's like the exorcist is giving up because the person will
> not release the evil spirit--will not yield.
> 38. GOD LEAVES THE CHOICE TO US. WE CAN CHOOSE. The Devil cannot
> prevent us from choosing. That's the one thing we can do no
> matter what the Devil does--we can choose! God leaves the choice
> to us. We can choose! God gives us the power to choose. We can
> choose if we want to. It's like that book symbolises the life or
> record which this young man could write with his life and his
> signature if he would. That's like the record of his life, and
> the candle represents the light and the Spirit of light and love
> that God is shining on the book for him to sign. But if he will
> not write, the bell is tolling away the time, and God closes the
> book and kisses out the candle. The young man himself has to
> decide to say no to those spiritual forces that are fighting, or
> he's going to be left... in darkness!
> 39. O JESUS, LORD JESUS!--THE BOOK IS CLOSED, THE LIGHT IS GONE,
> AND HE'S LEFT IN DARKNESS! The bell ceases to toll, and he's
> left in silence! He no longer hears the voice of God--like the
> voice of conscience ringing--tolling out the time like a funeral
> dirge. The book is like life's record, and the candle the light
> of life and love.
> 40. OH, THAT'S A SAD PICTURE!--ALL AROUND WAS DARKNESS!--The
> only light was the light on the face of the priest who
> represented the Lord. I was the priest, and it's like I was the
> Lord to him and I was offering the book for his signature and
> the light shone on his face, my face and the book--and
> everything else was darkness! We could hear the bell tolling,
> that awful relentless bell!--Then darkness and silence; and the
> bell ceased it's tolling.
> 41. THE BOOK HAD CLOSED, THE PRIEST HAD KISSED OUT THE LIGHT,
> AND THE BELL HAD CEASED ITS TOLLING! What could the light
> mean?--Almost as though you, to him, are the light--It's like I
> can give him the light, or I can kiss it away. It's just like I
> am like the Lord, the priest, and I can turn you on for him and
> I can turn you off if he doesn't sign. You're the light, in a
> way--the Holy Spirit in you, of course, You're like the
> candlestick bearing the flame of God's light: and if he doesn't
> obey and doesn't sign, then the record will be closed and the
> light taken away and the bell cease to toll. God doesn't give
> you forever, because time is short.
> 32. And all he has to do is sign the book--commit himself.
> Almost like the same thing the Lord said to Howard Hughes.[#199]
> He's going to have to commit himself now. God has waited long
> enough. He's going to have to commit himself now, or God may
> snuff out his life. God is very patient, but there comes a time
> when His Spirit will no longer strive with man. Time is short!
> The hour is late!--Later than you think!
> "Howard Hughes" #199:
> 13. SO THE LORD HAD BROUGHT HIM HERE for a reason or
> purpose.--That he was nearing the end of his mission and that
> even his present location in England was God's design.--And that
> he was not to be as the rich man who built greater barns and
> refused to share, for this night his soul could be required of
> him, and then whose would all these things be? Something he was
> reading had brought all this to his mind. It could have been the
> letter and the books Samson sent him. He was not to be as that
> foolish rich man, but that the Lord had brought him to England
> for a purpose.
> 14. GOD WAS SPEAKING LIKE A LAWYER PREPARING HIS CASE:
> "I've done all these things because of My love and the
> prayers of others, and now is your hour. You've come to the
> Kingdom for such a time as this, and now is the hour when I'm
> going to require something of you--I'm going to require you to
> do something for Me!" It was like God was bringing him up
> to a point of decision where he was now going to have to do
> something for the Lord.
> 15. GOD WAS SPEAKING ALL OF THIS TO HIS HEART, and he may have
> thought it was all his own thoughts and meditations, as so often
> we do when we don't realise it's God speaking to us.-And then it
> was as though God had put the proposition up to him, and now the
> choice was up to him. Now was the time! Now was God's hour! And
> then it seemed at the end, I was terribly burdened to pray for
> him that he would make the right decision.
> 19. THE LORD WASN'T EVEN CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HE REALLY LOOKED
> LIKE. But all I felt was sorrow and compassion for him, this
> poor old man lying there wondering about the end. In my
> experience, his looks, how the place looked where he lived, even
> the papers in his hand--nothing else was important.--Only his
> soul! It was this terrific spiritual battle, this momentous
> decision God was asking him to make, that was the important
> thing. I wasn't even concerned or curious about anything. I was
> only drawn to be a messenger, and to be conscious only of the
> tremendous battle that was going on, and to have a great concern
> for his soul.
> 20. THE REASON I REMEMBER THE COUCH WAS WHITE, or at least
> light, was because he looked white. It was a beautiful, almost
> angelic or saintly picture the way he lay on the couch. He was
> pale and white-his skin and hair and beard(?) and couch and
> papers. Everything was white and blended together. He must have
> also been dressed in white or pale clothing or it just looked
> that way in the dream, white and ghostly! I never thought about
> those things actually being white until I saw his apartment
> later on TV. At the time I just thought it was ghostly--you know
> how you think of things in the spirit. But the furniture really
> was white! [Ghostly, like in 84:1??]
> 25. LOOKS LIKE GOD'S ON HIS TRAIL--and he's on ours! Then
> recently Faith was introduced to a member of the Rothschild
> Family[FAM!], his bankers!--And finally Samson had faith to take
> that letter and literature to his hotel! Remember what God told
> us about him in "Questions and Answers"?--"David
> prays for Hughes. He is in My hands. I have placed him where he
> is that he may know that I am God, and he shall be as another
> man, and even he, according to thy request, shall help thy
> children in the day that they come unto him in the nation to
> which he hath fled. If thou shalt have faith to ask, I will open
> unto them a way where there is no way, and open a door which no
> man shall close." God bless Samson for his faith! And God
> bless Howard Hughes!
> These Names & things & places are important, but they
> are "blotted out in BLACK INK", [because printing INK
> is BLACK!!] In other words, "they are hidden in plain
> sight" of coded writing.-Ha!-223:1-3
> 1. I SAW A WHITE BOOK OF 32 PAGES . It contained what seemed
> like letters, and IT HAD AN INDEX. There were key words,
> important words that told things and places� There were some
> words on each page BLOTTED OUT.
> 2. Those words were BLOCKED OUT IN BLACK INK. When you put all
> the words in the Index that they were blocked out together, they
> told something important about where things were and what was
> going on.
> 3. The whole thing was a message, but the Enemy had BLOTTED OUT
> the key words to keep you from knowing what it meant. But the
> Lord had inspired somebody to figure it out, and that made it
> all PLAIN. In a way it was like prophecy and interpretation.
