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Re: Now how can that be George
By:George
Date: Saturday, 28 January 2006, 10:06 pm
In Response To: Now how can that be George (ebw)

> Maybe, maybe not.

> There is nothing to prove that the two
> verses are even related at all.
> They may be, they do have some similar
> wording, but I wouldn't build any doctrines
> on that supposition.

> But even if they are related, the verse in
> Daniel still describes the Lord coming in
> the clouds to take His throne.

Is there another event predicted in the OT where the Son of Man is supposed to come in the clouds in power and glory?

> A genuine "coming". Not a
> "presence".

Unfortunately, the Greek doesn't make a distinction between "coming" and "presence". The word is still "parousia".

> It is a world shaking event.
> Not some warm fuzzy inner awakening.

I agree. Jesus was talking about THE event of all history! That's why all the "collapsing universe" language is used. But it's symbolism. Their Jewish world was going to come crashing down. Everything that could be shaken was about to be shaken, so that the unshakeable could be set up in its place (He. 12:27).

> The tribes of Israel itself?????

I said "probably". Maybe I should have said "possibly". The word CAN mean "earth", as the KJV translators have rendered it. But I find it interesting that the word "tribes" is used, especially in connection to the Greek word "i Gi", which very often means "the Land of promise", i.e. Israel.

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