> CAn we assume that God wants to heal us all?
> I mean physically heal?

The fact is that it's impossible for us to know the mind of God. All we have is His Word for it, and he has promised healing -- but he never stipulated who he would or wouldn't heal and in what case and under what conditions.

Since this is the case, I would rather assume that he wants to heal, rather than assume that he doesn't want to heal. And then in some rare case (the exception), that he doesn't want to heal, just say the Lord's will be done and not get upset about it.

That we all will die eventually, is a fact of life. The reason is that the "wages of sin is death". All die because of sin -- we reap the consequenses of sin. But healing is God's mercy. There is permanent damage there that we have done and that is the part we must pay for with death. But the gift of God is eternal life.

Death is a blessing in disguise. It is a part of nature. All of nature goes through the same cycle of birth, growth, aging and death -- and we are no exception -- that is just the way that God designed it.

But death is what finally releases us from this old body that is constantly breaking down and we will finally get a new one that will never age or get sick. And the whole purpose of this is to unite us with our maker.

The whole purpose behind the process of having faith and being healed etc., is developing a relationship between us and God. Healing is just one of the ways that he shows his love and grace and mercy. But the fact that he doesn't heal sometimes, doesn't mean he doesn't love us. Many times it is something that he uses that drives us closer to him.

> We won't come into
> full salvation until we get to heaven, so
> why do we think that God must heal us now?
> Every person that Jesus healed eventually
> died, and every person who gets healed
> miraculously today will also die. The point
> is, as you said, we can't assume he WON'T
> heal, but neither can we assume that He WILL
> heal.

That's the whole idea behind faith, assuming or expecting that he will do what he promised. Like I said before, there is no way of knowing when he will heal or when he won't -- God knows best. So why assume that he won't when He has promised that he will?

Some don't get healed just because they don't have faith, because they just assume that God doesn't want to heal. You don't really know that this is the case -- it may be, but then you really done know.

Everyone who has been healed will eventually die, so why even expect that God will heal, why even have faith, why even pray?

You see, that is the whole thing. We walk by faith not by sight. What pleases God is having faith for something that we cannot see. Again, that is the whole purpose of prayer and faith -- it develops our relationship with God and our dependence and trust and confidence in him.

That relationship can't hinge on whether we get healed or whether we don't get healed. that relationship hinges on loving, trusting and communicating with a God who we have never seen, but who has only left behind a few promises long ago.

And what makes him happy is when we trust him and believe in him for the impossible even when we cannot see the or have no idea what will or will not happen. We still love and trust him even if he doesn't heal us.

As Job said, "Though he slay me, yet will I trust him"

> Isn't this faith in faith? I mean, we're
> supposed to trust God for what He said, not
> trust that He will only care for us provided
> we have enough faith. Plenty of new age
> people get things 'because they beleive' and
> they attribute it to the power of their mind
> or their faith, although it is certainly not
> faith in God.

No matter who it is, God is no respector of persons. All power is of God. If they have faith in God, God gives them the power to do the impossible. Jesus said:

Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

It has nothing to do with what religion you belong to or do not belong to. God loves all men no matter what religion he or she believes is the right one or the best one. God doesn't look on the outward appearances, he looks on the heart.

I'm sure there are some that "have faith" in the devil for some things, but that is outside the scope of this topic. But I believe that no matter who you are or what you belong to, if you direct your prayers to God in sincerity and with faith, God hears you.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

> IT seems to me that we can trust that GOd
> will do whatever is best for us (including
> miracles)because He is God, because of Who
> He is, not because we have 'enough faith'
> WDYT?

It is both things actually. But it all works throught prayer.

"Ye have no because ye ask not."

"Mat 21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive."

But our prayers may not work if they are not according to his will:

1Jo 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

1Jo 5:15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

So it's not only who HE is it is also about his will and OUR FAITH and not doubting him.

Mar 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.