> That's true Joel, but the woman at the well
> was receptive to what Jesus said to her and
> was not a believer prior to his speaking to
> her.
This is the first time she heard new Words. Maria also is YET to hear New Word!-Isa.43:18-19
Because there is None coming out of your stinking Bible Colleges! And don't try to minimize Saul-Paul's Murder & Torture of Christians!-Act 22:4,19 & 26:10-11

She didn't teach others false and
> damaging doctrines and she wasn't a sex
> pervert to her own kids even making it
> doctrine. What Berg and Maria did was so
> much worse that any bible story and they
> taught it as doctrines in the name of Jesus
> and Maria continues the insanity.
> David from the OT and the Queen of Sheba
> were people that were actual kings and
> queens, David of course starting out with
> contact to the house of Saul and then being
> chosen to be King in his stead. David Berg
> was a person raised in a Christian family
> where he learned that bending the truth was
> okay for testimony's sake and where he was
> molested. He didn't start the "Jesus
> movement" but came on the scene and
> usurped others that did with his message of
> being the creme de la creme of Jesus
> movements, the most sold out and on fire
> disciples.
> Instead, what I saw happening was the
> militaristic and controlling atmosphere in
> the COG at that time was firmly embedded in
> strict and unquestioning obedience to
> leadership as the watchers for our souls. In
> that sense WE WERE STUNTED from becoming
> strong believers and WE WERE THE WEAK ONES.
> Stronger Christians were able to build a
> connection with God without a leader telling
> them how to do it and inserting damaging,
> severely damaging doctrines that resulted in
> the deaths of many and the damaging of
> scores of people.
> But what does this have to do with Maria?
> She is the weakest leader and creator of
> some of the most deviant doctrine in the
> name of Christ. The Family International is
> a small and weak organization and they teach
> nothing that is strong meat. Just dead
> devious doctrine. They are predatorial even
> though many individuals have a conversion
> confused by her doctrines and in spite of
> her do some good works.
> TFI is associated in the world to criminal
> organizations. Like skinheads. And worse
> they taught pedophilia as doctrine. That
> kind of thing sticks with a child all their
> life. ALL THEIR LIFE.

> My understanding is that Berg visited a
> coven while up in Canada during that time. I
> don't trust his revelations as being plugged
> into the right source.
> David and Bathsheba are not comparable to
> Berg and Maria. David did some very bad
> things this is true but he repented of them
> and was humiliated before all. Berg never
> did that and Berg taught his deviancies as
> doctrine in the name of Jesus.
> Why hang onto his words and prophecies? One
> thing you may want to at least consider is
> that many religions and cults have leaders
> that have revelations that come to pass and
> are more accurate than Berg's ever were but
> does that make them of God, these signs and
> wonders?
> I like what Judy posted above about the
> difference between Prophets of old that
> spoke for the people and the DIFFERENCE that
> occurred after Jesus came in that people can
> now connect for themselves. There is no
> longer a place for a prophet. Why was the
> holy spirit sent? So one man or one woman
> could interpret it to everyone else? I think
> not.
> From what I remember reading, David of the
> OT had heavy consequences for his misdeeds
> incl the loss of his son with Bathsheba for
> having sent his best friend and her husband
> to the front lines to die for his lust. Also
> his children rebelled against him. That was
> due to his unsavory actions. Much of the
> beauty in the psalms was the result of his
> repentance but the result of David Bergs
> relationship with whatever he was plugged
> into gave us things like
> "Demonology", "God's
> Whores", "God's Witches",
> "One Wife", "To My Typewriter
> Queens", "The Marry Time
> Dream", "Heaven's Girl", and
> anything positive was largely plagierized in
> that it was presented as a revelation by
> Berg but he took it from something already
> preached in the past before his time.
> And what did Bathsheba do? She married the
> king after her husband was murdered and the
> king took her like property as happened with
> women in that day. Yes people stoned women
> blaming everything on them primarily at that
> time. Bathsheba suffered too with the loss
> of her son. But the key thing is people
> REPENTED and that is what the psalms are
> full of. That and a pure love of God not the
> distorted lunatic and deviant ravings of a
> man who thinks he was God's mouthpiece on
> earth spewing the sickest of doctrines to
> meet his needs borne of weakness and
> affecting the smallest of victims. What did
> Jesus say about hurting children?

> Joel, I think you are a very bright person
> and very sincere but I think you are being
> strung along by a fantasy you haven't been
> able to abandon. Imagine what could happen
> if you could cut that loose and live in the
> now without Berg's letters?

> We were continually in upheaval believing
> disasters were around every corner and so
> controlled by fear of an unloving God. It is
> not easy to come to terms with the
> investment of something in our lives we
> believed to be inspired which turned into a
> nightmare that WAS INSPIRED by Tales from
> the Darkside.