this whole idea of of women pastors and priest etc..sounds to similiar to the whole idea that the Family had when they were promoting sex.

That everyone else had it wrong, but pioneers who can really read the Bible and really translate what says prove that the church for two thousand years have got it wrong, and they have it right.

I also hardly like the examples they pull out to show there are examples of women leadership.

I always feel like saying "So you feel you are a Deborah?"

Isn't that how Berg justified his self to rule, to be what he shouldn't?

I think it's pretty clear how women should not rule over men. I think our society is suffering because of women's lack of faith to believe in their men to take on the mantle of service.

I really don't believe the whole Da'vinci code thing that one of the Disciples was a woman.

And if not, why not? Because Jesus didn't want ruling over men. Did he hate women? NO, but this is God's plan, some hard facts in the Christian religion is that women do have a wonderful role to play which does not include being Pastor, Priest, etc...