> this whole idea of of women pastors and
> priest etc..sounds to similiar to the whole
> idea that the Family had when they were
> promoting sex.

> That everyone else had it wrong, but
> pioneers who can really read the Bible and
> really translate what says prove that the
> church for two thousand years have got it
> wrong, and they have it right.

> I also hardly like the examples they pull
> out to show there are examples of women
> leadership.

The argument in favor in women as priests and pastors based on women leadership in the OT is interesting, but there are far MORE examples of male leadership. The female leaders are an anomaly. Should they serve as a pattern to follow?

Deborah and Huldah were prophetesses who prophesied privately not in a congregational forum; and there are the occasional women who served in a governmental position. But are there any examples of women doing congregational Bible teachings that is expected of pastors/priests/elders?

> I always feel like saying "So you feel
> you are a Deborah?"

> Isn't that how Berg justified his self to
> rule, to be what he shouldn't?

> I think it's pretty clear how women should
> not rule over men. I think our society is
> suffering because of women's lack of faith
> to believe in their men to take on the
> mantle of service.

> I really don't believe the whole Da'vinci
> code thing that one of the Disciples was a
> woman.

> And if not, why not? Because Jesus didn't
> want ruling over men. Did he hate women? NO,
> but this is God's plan, some hard facts in
> the Christian religion is that women do have
> a wonderful role to play which does not
> include being Pastor, Priest, etc...

Those who support women pastors have other arguments beside those.

"Some argue that 1 Tim 2:11-14 only applies to a specific situation that Paul was addressing, perhaps one where a women were actually teaching false doctrines. Another argument is that Paul gave this prohibition b/c women were not well educated in the first century, and therefore were not qualified for teaching or governing roles in the church." Grudem

There are many more objections.