That's okay, George. The Lord knows that I've had my testy moments, too. You and Woodie have studied this subject for some time now. It's new ground for me. But I'll reserve judgement until I actually do the digging myself. Thanks for the links.

Oh, I meant to type iMac not iMax.

> Sorry if I got testy. I was just beginning
> to get the feeling that I was being asked to
> do the actual digging here, while others sat
> back and gave me thumbs down (though I did
> get a couple of thumbs up). Maybe I'm being
> overly sensitive.

> I have read both Sproul and Grudem (not on
> the subject of Hebrews, per se, but on all
> the "woman" issues in this
> thread); I've also read much more. It is a
> subject that is important to both of us, and
> we have shelves of books that deal with it.

> I don't expect that everyone will agree with
> me. All I ask is that posters give
> reasonable consideration to the
> authors/articles we suggest, to round out
> their perspectives -- and not just fall back
> to the position they're most familiar with.

> See you when you get your new iMax (Is that
> a computer, or what?).